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Worst thread ever...

By the way Innerclock, has this thread helped you sell more of your crappy overpriced syncshifts? I hope so, quite the marketing plan you've got there.

I've never HEARD any instability in the MD's timing. Just like I've never HEARD instability in an 808 or MPC. You might be able to see it with a wave editor, but when it comes to music, I've always been more interested in sound, you know? Elektron is aware, let this shit die already.

right said. :-o

I havent realized that he is selling a din sync shifter...
what is overpriced? i havent found a price on the page?

However ..i was asking SND and Jomox many many years agoto develop such a device because in a multi drum machine 303 setup you really need such a device for good grooves...i eneded up with digital delay lines in the output of the drummachines to achieve such fx...but i was limited to the mix output than...

SND and Jomox refused to make such a produvt because the havent seen a big market for such a specialist product..so it indded has to cost something...

same with the MD itself... 1600 euro fur a UW? thats a heavy price...
A small company with small total amounts of sales cant beat price wise a korg or roland that sell by the factor 10-100..

How much is such a syncshift mark 2?

the syncshifts have NOTHING to do with this problem.
that was made clear in the first couple of pages.

the syncshifts are for other uses.

Shut up and die bounce.

*ouch*

Thunder wrote:
By the way Innerclock, has this thread helped you sell more of your crappy overpriced syncshifts? I hope so, quite the marketing plan you've got there.

I've never HEARD any instability in the MD's timing. Just like I've never HEARD instability in an 808 or MPC. You might be able to see it with a wave editor, but when it comes to music, I've always been more interested in sound, you know? Elektron is aware, let this shit die already.

As a matter of fact no Thunder - if you understood the SPS-1 random step error concept properly you would realise that no amount of Sync-Shift can fix tempo/step jitter in any hardware device or sequencing software.

All the Sync-Shift does is offset the sync signal it receives. If you send it sloppy clock it outputs sloppy clock - simple as that.

If the Sync-Shift fixed the problem as you seem to suggest then (a) I would be using it between my MPC-3K and the SPS-1, (b) I would be advertising the fact and selling bucket loads which I am not and (c) I would not have wasted my time starting this thread because I would have my own home grown solution.

So, let?s make this perfectly clear for everybody - the notion of me using this forum as a marketing strategy is way off target.

The people who have Sync-Shifts (Mk1 or Mk II) didn't seem to think they were overpriced and no one has said they were crappy:-

http://www.innerclocksystems.com/index.asp?action=page&name=17

As I said before - I can hear the MD drifting against other things I own way before I open an editor. If you can't and don't care then stay off the thread and let others work it out.

Regards - David.

Don't pay attention to Thunder. He's clearly a troll.

I can see where my responses might come off as trolling. Reality is, I am just frustrated with this thread and forum in general. You might actually notice that I have been a member of this forum longer than almost anyone on this thread. I have seen this forum go from good to bad to worse, with bounce's inane, yet frequent 12 year old comments and attitude as a major catalyst to this.

Innerclock, you have made a valid point and I apologize for addressing you so harshly, slightly misdirected animosity on my part. I appreciate your ability to counter my offensive jabs at your company with intelligent reasoning, cheers.