Elektron-Users

Any idea as to why I´m having trouble with the internal tracks?

Any idiot-button I´m missing?

Why I don't see recorded sample in Audio Pool?
Where is this sample?
At recorders 1-8 of Fex Machine only?
Where can I edit catched sample? trimming,normalizing, etc ????

MIDI + TRACK 1-8

I hate to be critical, but I feel in OS 0.99 at least, the design of the sampling process is broken. Octatrack is a "sampler" and based off my experience with the MD I figured sampling would be really easy, fast & elegant, sadly it's none of these things.

So to get a sample going you have to do these steps,

Press the track button of an empty track to pick a track slot
Hold playback 1-2 seconds to edit the machine
Press right down left & down x times to change the machine in the slot to Flex Rx>recorder
Press enter twice to confirm
Press exit to get back to the main screen
Press function + record (ab or cd) to check the record settings
Decide on if you want to use a trig recorder or a manual recorder, let's use trig...
Press play and then record to start the sequencer
Press T1 to place a record trigger on the first track
- from now on the OT constantly records, replacing the sample buffer on every pass
- you will be hearing the live input not your sample
Press exit to get back to the main screen
Hold playback 1-2 seconds to edit the machine
Press enter to edit the machine
Press trim(LFO) and you can watch the sample being constantly overwritten
- turning off the trigger step seems to only change if you are monitoring the input
- the trim waveform still is being replaced by the input regardless of the trig step
Press oper(effect 2) to save the sample (which is still being overwritten)
Press enter to give the sample a name (which is still being overwritten)
Press up and down and right enter a name (sample still being overwritten)
- I miss the big data dial on the MD, and Level sometimes seems to be used on list views which is nice (sadly not used for entering text presently) but pressing level does not work as an enter key...
Press enter to set the name and finally stop overwriting the buffer
Press exit to go to the main screen
Press and hold playback to change the machines sample (still hearing the live input)
Hold down till you get to the bottom of the sample list for your project
Go to the first empty slot
Press enter three times to change the sample
Press down to find the sample in your list of samples
Press enter to load the sample that was most likely recorded at the wrong spot based on what the input was doing as you entered the name

Congratulations you are now playing a new sample!

Um yea, the design leaves a lot to be desired. I really hope this is going to be easier with 1.0...

Hmz.. I don't consider myself as very dumb but I've tried it for like 20 minutes and gave up.

Endosine wrote:
I hate to be critical, but I feel in OS 0.99 at least, the design of the sampling process is broken. Octatrack is a "sampler" and based off my experience with the MD I figured sampling would be really easy, fast & elegant, sadly it's none of these things.

So to get a sample going you have to do these steps,

Press the track button of an empty track to pick a track slot
Hold playback 1-2 seconds to edit the machine
Press right down left & down x times to change the machine in the slot to Flex Rx>recorder
Press enter twice to confirm
Press exit to get back to the main screen
Press function + record (ab or cd) to check the record settings
Decide on if you want to use a trig recorder or a manual recorder, let's use trig...
Press play and then record to start the sequencer
Press T1 to place a record trigger on the first track
- from now on the OT constantly records, replacing the sample buffer on every pass
- you will be hearing the live input not your sample
Press exit to get back to the main screen
Hold playback 1-2 seconds to edit the machine
Press enter to edit the machine
Press trim(LFO) and you can watch the sample being constantly overwritten
- turning off the trigger step seems to only change if you are monitoring the input
- the trim waveform still is being replaced by the input regardless of the trig step
Press oper(effect 2) to save the sample (which is still being overwritten)
Press enter to give the sample a name (which is still being overwritten)
Press up and down and right enter a name (sample still being overwritten)
- I miss the big data dial on the MD, and Level sometimes seems to be used on list views which is nice (sadly not used for entering text presently) but pressing level does not work as an enter key...
Press enter to set the name and finally stop overwriting the buffer
Press exit to go to the main screen
Press and hold playback to change the machines sample (still hearing the live input)
Hold down till you get to the bottom of the sample list for your project
Go to the first empty slot
Press enter three times to change the sample
Press down to find the sample in your list of samples
Press enter to load the sample that was most likely recorded at the wrong spot based on what the input was doing as you entered the name

Congratulations you are now playing a new sample!

Um yea, the design leaves a lot to be desired. I really hope this is going to be easier with 1.0...

Wow...thanks for the simple instructions . But seriously, I hope the Elektron crew are reading important posts like this one. It does seem like a shitload of steps to record a sample. Whatever happened to sample mode/input source/record sample/?

Endosine wrote:
I hate to be critical, but I feel in OS 0.99 at least, the design of the sampling process is broken. Octatrack is a "sampler" and based off my experience with the MD I figured sampling would be really easy, fast & elegant, sadly it's none of these things.

So to get a sample going you have to do these steps,

Press the track button of an empty track to pick a track slot
Hold playback 1-2 seconds to edit the machine
Press right down left & down x times to change the machine in the slot to Flex Rx>recorder
Press enter twice to confirm
Press exit to get back to the main screen
Press function + record (ab or cd) to check the record settings
Decide on if you want to use a trig recorder or a manual recorder, let's use trig...
Press play and then record to start the sequencer
Press T1 to place a record trigger on the first track
- from now on the OT constantly records, replacing the sample buffer on every pass
- you will be hearing the live input not your sample
Press exit to get back to the main screen
Hold playback 1-2 seconds to edit the machine
Press enter to edit the machine
Press trim(LFO) and you can watch the sample being constantly overwritten
- turning off the trigger step seems to only change if you are monitoring the input
- the trim waveform still is being replaced by the input regardless of the trig step
Press oper(effect 2) to save the sample (which is still being overwritten)
Press enter to give the sample a name (which is still being overwritten)
Press up and down and right enter a name (sample still being overwritten)
- I miss the big data dial on the MD, and Level sometimes seems to be used on list views which is nice (sadly not used for entering text presently) but pressing level does not work as an enter key...
Press enter to set the name and finally stop overwriting the buffer
Press exit to go to the main screen
Press and hold playback to change the machines sample (still hearing the live input)
Hold down till you get to the bottom of the sample list for your project
Go to the first empty slot
Press enter three times to change the sample
Press down to find the sample in your list of samples
Press enter to load the sample that was most likely recorded at the wrong spot based on what the input was doing as you entered the name

Congratulations you are now playing a new sample!

Um yea, the design leaves a lot to be desired. I really hope this is going to be easier with 1.0...

holy crap - I was not expecting this at all

Jesus I'm only a guitar player how the hell am I going to do that!

I've added my long post above to the wiki for future reference.
How to record with v0.99 Octatrack

Haha, I agree to a point, once you have set up the record machine its not too bad, and you do eventually get used to it, but I wouldn't call it streamlined and simple - the MDUW is way quicker - but again remember you have to set up the machines first on the UW too.

Here's what I think would be good, a quick sample mode, because the existing mode is very good for realtime trig sampling, but kind of annoying for simple stuff, so I propose 'SIMPLE SAMPLER' - Hold mixer button, press REC (transport button) up pops a window, with all the inputs and sources, release REC, the six knobs set the levels as required, and a input meter flashes along the bottom of the screen (or use the step LEDs!) the OT is in sampling standby mode pre-sampling 500ms so that when you press REC sampling begins and if you were not quick enough with the button the OT has your back. To stop sampling press REC again, now the file is in memory and the OT plays it back and asks if ok, press yes to go to trim screen or no to retry. The play and stop buttons can be used to start and stop the sequencer whilst sampling.

Anyway, I think that might be cool, what do you lot think?

I have tons of other ideas, but probably best to wait to see what v1.0 brings.