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#235074
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MD program change LAG 4 Years, 2 Months ago
got a problem:

i am using OT as the master, going into MD, and thru to MnM. the OT has program change send enabled, MD and MnM have program change receive enabled. when i change patterns, the MnM responds instantly but the MD waits one cycle and has the pattern that i have already switched to cued up on the screen as in patter chaining mode, but is still playing the previous pattern.

this won't due at all for a live set coming up next tuesday...

any ideas?
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#235099
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Re:MD program change LAG 4 Years, 2 Months ago
bump?

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Re:MD program change LAG 4 Years, 2 Months ago
I had same issue with MD & MM using identical midi chain a while back.

My workaround for the MD was to trigger patterns via note. You can assign each MD pattern to a note and use a p-locked OT midi channel note to change patterns instantaneously. If using lots of patterns I found it useful to write down each MD pattern's note for future reference & to avoid double ups.

Re: MM, I believe you can do the same trick, although I don't take the MM live so just sample its sequences into another device & live with the one pattern cue delay out of laziness & just use program changes.

I know that the other method is to match up each OT pattern to its MM/MD brethren... ie. OT pat A1 plays with MD A1, MM A1... change to OT pat B7 also makes MM/MD jump to their pat B7 etc etc. Issue with this is that you only get to use the first 8 OT banks as the 2nd 8 won't have counterparts on the MD/OT.

In saying all this, sometimes I mute the OT midi channels for MD/MM so i can create smoother seagues into next track by choosing when I want each device to change over. Unmute the relevant OT channel when you want the relevant device to jump to the new song/pattern.
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#235101
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Re:MD program change LAG 4 Years, 2 Months ago
ozone, i really appreciate the detailed response

i was hoping there was an easy fix, but like much in the elektron system, a blatant problem leads to creative solutions one could not have arrived at otherwise.

great suggestions, and i think i will probably use at least the note triggered pattern change and mute the midi track until i am ready to play.

that said, for reasons beyond my understanding, i have been manually triggering pattern changes per machine for years now. if all else fails before next tuesday, i'll work harder, not smarter.

thanks!

on another note, i have actually started a brand new live set on another bank... just to make sure i am totally secure with what i will be playing live for the first time. i apparently love working under pressure.
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Re:MD program change LAG 4 Years, 2 Months ago
No worries Kirlian, good luck with it.

Can totally relate to the work under pressure situation.
Sometimes more gets done in hours than months.
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#235125
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Re:MD program change LAG 4 Years, 2 Months ago
This sounds like a bug right? Have you told elektron ?

I hope it will be fixed, as i will eventually be chaining these same 3 boxes...
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